A thought of Shining Armor.

[weirdraptor]

Hi, I've been mulling over Shining Armor and Princess Cadence's introduction into the series for a while now, and while I do stand by them as welcome additions to the series (please don't argue with me on this point, at least not in this topic). I do, however, see why some people have reservations about Shining Armor, because he's supposed Twilight's brother where there was no brother implied before. Personally speaking, I always thought that any fridge logic this generated could have been cleared with two simple changes (aside from introducing him as Twilight's brother in the Pilot), and those changes are:
1. Make him a pegasus.
2. Rainbow Dash's brother.

Now hear me out on this one. Of all the mane six so far, we STILL haven't seen her family, so...we don't know if Dash has a brother or not. The Royal Wedding could have been a perfect opportunity to introduction Dash's family. For that matter, Cadence could have been a unicorn, as originally proposed. What are your thoughts on this?

[sunstar]

Why Rainbow Dash? Why not Fluttershy or Pinkie Pie? Make him a brother of Applejacks but keep him a Unicorn. Applejacks parents are horrified to give birth to a Unicorn son instead of an earthling because they see Unicorns as weak. They send him away in secret and tell Granny Smith that the foal was stillborn. They have Big Mac, Applejack, and Apple Bloom and vanish. The wedding episodes come up and Applejack finds out her parents are alive and living with her Unicorn brother who is the one getting married. Disgusted, Applejack refuses to even acknowledge her unicorn brother.

[weirdraptor]

Yeah, this show would never get that dark (in reference to the Applejack suggestion). And why not Rainbow Dash?

[sunstar]

Having him as Dashes Brother and him marrying a Unicorn could bring up racism issues. The Pegasus tribe expressly forbids interracial marriage and Dash finds out he is marrying a Unicorn, things get explosive.

We know Dash has a dad. Many fans give her Firefly for her mother. We have yet to see Fluttershy's parents or siblings ether.

[weirdraptor]

Where did you get this information come from? I've never seen it expressed in the series. I want an episode, scene, and mark in the running time before I buy this. Please keep fanon out of this.

[darkabomination]

I never understand why some fans think there's racism or a class society when the show has only suggested unity and friendship between the races, and expressly promotes cooperation.

[sunstar]

Dashes dad is seen the the episode where Crystal Empire is named as the city to host the Equestrian Games. Filly Dash is seen bouncing on top of a dark blue stallion with rainbow hair.

[weirdraptor]

Okay, I forgot about that, but that still leaves the issue of racism, I'm afraid. Where did this idea that the Pegasi impose a rule that they can't interbreed with the others ponies come from? Why would Pegasi even bother interacting with other ponies if they had such a social rule impose? They obviously don't mind forming close relationships with Earth ponies and Unicorns, so it can't be a Racial Supremacy thing going on. I have not seen any of this attitude expressed in any of the pegasi introduced on the show to date (and that includes the ones who act like jerks), and the fact that one of the Cakes' foals is a pegasus is proof that there IS interbreeding going on.

[darkabomination]

Because it doesn't exist and is just some random fanon. What would be so bad about pegasi breeding with the other kinds anyway? It's just going to make a regular pegasus foal, or whatever other race the partner is. sure it'll increase your likelyhood of producing the odd other type of pony in the bloodline, but that's it.

[sunstar]

It didn't come from anywhere. It was an idea.

[weirdraptor]

Ah, okay. You need to tell me when you're claiming something is part of the series canon and when you're just suggesting ideas, because you left me very confused.

[Sassaflash]

Wouldn't Applejack and her family being disgusted about being related to a unicorn be a racist theme too? I'm pretty sure they had a couple of unicorn foals at the reunion.

[darkabomination]

Racist barn, racist barn... In all seriousness it would, making it all the more ridiculous.

[weirdraptor]

And how the heck could Applejack even be racist and have two unicorn and pegasi friends?

[Bright Glow]

Jan 23, 2014 22:11:13 GMT -8 weirdraptor said:

Hi, I've been mulling over Shining Armor and Princess Cadence's introduction into the series for a while now, and while I do stand by them as welcome additions to the series (please don't argue with me on this point, at least not in this topic). I do, however, see why some people have reservations about Shining Armor, because he's supposed Twilight's brother where there was no brother implied before. Personally speaking, I always thought that any fridge logic this generated could have been cleared with two simple changes (aside from introducing him as Twilight's brother in the Pilot), and those changes are:
1. Make him a pegasus.
2. Rainbow Dash's brother.

Now hear me out on this one. Of all the mane six so far, we STILL haven't seen her family, so...we don't know if Dash has a brother or not. The Royal Wedding could have been a perfect opportunity to introduction Dash's family. For that matter, Cadence could have been a unicorn, as originally proposed. What are your thoughts on this?

Well Ican see a point there. If I remember right in the Pink Apple Pie episode Applejack, Apple Bloom, Big Machintosg, Granny Smith and Pinkie Pie went to a journey to find Goldie Delicious to clear if Pinkie Pie is related to the Apple Family or not.

Oh and we learned in the begining of the episode Auntie Applesauce of the Apple family might be removed from the Apple Family.