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Post by Al1701 on Feb 16, 2013 8:31:46 GMT -8
Episode 65 is perhaps one of the most important episodes in a children show's run. Shows that reach this point can be syndicated. Many shows reach this point and stop. However, some shows continue on. Typically, this where the shows that continue on will plant it's biggest tent pole for good or for ill.
This is especially true of shows produced for Hasbro. The fiascoes that Transformers and G.I. Joe were after 65 episodes are legendary. Jem and My Little Pony and Friends weren't even given the chance to go past 65 episodes.
So, My Little Pony, Friendship is Magic reaching this threshold and being renewed for a full fourth season meant big things had to be done. And boy did they go big.
The most obvious thing about this episode is Twilight Sparkle becoming an alicorn and a princess. We've suspected, heard rumors, and then finally got confirmation. Well, now here she is in all her regal glory, Princess Twilight Sparkle. This isn't just a tent pole. It's an I-beam in poured concrete. The show will never be the same. Whether this is a good thing or a bad thing is something we'll have to wait and see.
As for the episode itself, it was a musical to keep the pace up. Each act could have easily been it's own episode. The songs were great and the animation was breathtaking. They went all out in this episode with plenty of ponies in the background.
However, this episode did a superb job in its most vital task. It had to both be a finale where if the show ended we would have a sense of closure and leave the possibility of new adventures and leave questions unanswered. The ending did just that. We got to see Twilight crowned a princess, but what she'll do now was left up in the air.
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Post by djlamar2 on Feb 16, 2013 10:36:28 GMT -8
Here is the video for today. Look at the info because the better quality is coming up soon. If anyone finds it post it please. Review time . I still gotta say TS has a wonderful voice. And it really stands out in this episode . Uh oh. There's something wrong here, terribly, terribly wrong. Sounds like a case of the Frazzits. But I don't think they are the cause. So let's see Rarity switched cutie marks with Rainbow Dash, Rainbow Dash switched cutie marks with Fluttershy and Fluttershy switched cutie marks with Pinkie Pie. Ow my head hurts from figuring this out. Okay this is even more weird Pinkie Pie switched with Applejack. Then who has Rarity's cutie mark. I'm all confused. Oh no. Poor Applejack. She has Rarity's Cutie Mark. I wonder how in the world this happened? Can't be Discord he promised to be good. Yep everything is a mess in Ponyville since everyone switched cutie marks. Rarity Dash, Flutter Pie, Rainbow Shy, Pinkie Jack, Ugh my head hurts. Applejack I have no creative name for her. It makes my head hurt trying to do so. Please please please someone explain what's happening? Aha I see what happened. A spell gone awry. So when she used that spell she changed everyone's supposedly talents. Now that makes sense. Aw Twilight Sparkle its okay girl. You can fix this. Seeing TS sad makes me feel so bad for her. And makes me sad too. Also this reminds me of that story I made awhile back but instead of being turned into foals they have their cutie marks switched. Weird how Twilight Sparkle's cutie mark wasn't altered. Whoa did anyone just see TS make her eyes twinkle? That was cool. I thought..... well never mind. Don't wanna jump to conclusions yet. Yeah now that's more like it girl . Fluttershy you just have your cutie mark switched girl. As do the rest. Yay. Well that's fixed good job Twilight Sparkle. Nice job girl. 1 down 5 to go. Ooh I love this song. Hasbro I could just hug you. Its so fitting . Its starting to work. Again the mane 6 has some beautiful voices. Listen to that harmony . Alright now to help Pinkie Pie. Now those are true true friends. Sorry couldn't help myself . Pinkie Pie time to be silly girl . Yay everything is back to normal. But what about that spell? She still needs to complete it. She did it. She completed the spell. Good job Twilight Sparkle. Uh oh here we go people. Twilight Sparkle's true self . Oh I see. That's why it worked. *Scratches his head* Yeah ready for What Celestia? Ooh Celestia can sing. What a pretty voice she has. Pretty voice for a beautiful princess I suppose . And here she is Twilight Sparkle the Alicorn . All that training paid off. Might I say she makes a beautiful Alicorn. W..... wh.... what? A princess? She's a princess? Whoa. 1 word for her being a princess *Tries to contain it but can't* Sorry guys but I have to go all Pinkie Pie on. OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH OH MY GOSH! Okay that's 6 but who cares. Okay now 1 word: AWESOME! I knew something like this would happen. Guess we can call her "Princess Twilight Sparkle" from now on. I like that. Princess Twilight Sparkle. Has a nice ring to it. A coronation for her. She deserves it. She really does . I see now why the element of harmony for TS was a crown because she was meant to be a princess. Nice. Aw Shining Armor is crying. But their happy tears. I agree Pinkie Pie: Best coronation day ever. I hope they don't stop after this season I want to see Twilight Sparkle as her princess self and see how she does and see what new stuff is planned for her. Even with all the rage about this episode I thought it was pretty good. Sure some of it was messed up but still it was a decent episode. Sunstar please tell me that season 4 isn't just a rumor please.
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Post by sunstar on Feb 16, 2013 12:36:51 GMT -8
Season 4 is not a rumor. We will deliver! I see they went with my layout for the cutie mark switch. Thank goodness. The original layout was bad. Rarity had Applejacks cutie mark, Applejack had fluttershys mark, Pinkie had Rainbows mark, Rainbow had Rarities mark, and fluttershy had pinkies mark. Fluttershy kept pinkies mark. Good Episode! Did you see the light colored swirl behind Celestia? That is the great Flow of Magic. The Flow recognized Twilight and changed her to an Unipeg. Twilight is not an Alicorn, but an Unipeg.
A Unipeg is a Unicorn who gains pegasus wings. A Pegacorn is a pegasus who gains a Unicorn horn. An Alicorn is born with both horn and wings at birth.
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Post by battlefield on Feb 16, 2013 13:12:34 GMT -8
Season 4 is not a rumor. We will deliver! I see they went with my layout for the cutie mark switch. Thank goodness. The original layout was bad. Rarity had Applejacks cutie mark, Applejack had fluttershys mark, Pinkie had Rainbows mark, Rainbow had Rarities mark, and fluttershy had pinkies mark. Fluttershy kept pinkies mark. Good Episode! Did you see the light colored swirl behind Celestia? That is the great Flow of Magic. The Flow recognized Twilight and changed her to an Unipeg. Twilight is not an Alicorn, but an Unipeg. A Unipeg is a Unicorn who gains pegasus wings. A Pegacorn is a pegasus who gains a Unicorn horn. An Alicorn is born with both horn and wings at birth. Holy smokes! That was the Flow, wasn't it?!
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Post by Al1701 on Feb 16, 2013 13:14:04 GMT -8
Is the Great Flow of Magic and the fact she's a unipeg and not an alicorn canon or just your explanation?
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Post by djlamar2 on Feb 16, 2013 13:16:19 GMT -8
Okay but its still awesome to see Twilight Sparkle being a unipeg. I'm gonna have to make a story with her being 1 now. You know I may make a "Magic of Ponyland" story with her becoming a unipeg. But its gonna be different from this story. I mean the mane 6, Celestia and Luna are in "The Magic of Ponyland" after all. Still need to add Cadence and Shining Armor but I'll do it eventually .
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Post by Sassaflash on Feb 16, 2013 13:27:20 GMT -8
I liked the first part though the problem was fixed a little too easily, I think. I liked the music even if the lyrics in places could have used a little more work. But then being a lyricist myself that might just be me being picky. I'm pretty sure I saw a couple of background ponies affected too that were never addressed? Pretty sure Timeturner had a moon similar to Trixie's in one shot. The last third or so centered around the coronation itself seemed a little too rushed to me. They could have extended the length a little or made it a two parter. They've had two parters before so they already know kids can focus on them. If kids can focus on... what was it..? a nine episode marathon..? they can concentrate on an extended finale. I kind of liked the reason for Twilight becoming a Princess, but at the same time she already had Celestia's attention and there could be hundreds of others who could have made good princesses and will never get the chance because Celestia doesn't pay any attention to them. If magic can change a species, I'm sure it can boost magical ability a little. I liked the effects though. Also, does Twilight never speak to her parents at all? They were there, they'd just seen her made a princess and she just wanders past them to go make a speech? I know they're background characters, but still. xD
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Post by djlamar2 on Feb 16, 2013 13:42:04 GMT -8
1 last question Sunstar. Did they purposefully make Twilight Sparkle's Element of Harmony gem a crown? It kind of seemed like it now that I think about it. Nothing wrong with it, its just interesting to know that she had that gem 3 seasons and no pony asked "Why is hers a crown?"
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Post by sunstar on Feb 16, 2013 16:15:37 GMT -8
Twilight becoming an Unipeg was planned from the start. the crown instead of a necklace was a good clue. I am hoping to push the show into developing the back story of the Elements, and yes, that was the Flow of Magic. I am using the correct term until it is shown that Twilight has earth magic in her too.
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Post by Al1701 on Feb 16, 2013 16:20:20 GMT -8
Because in the episode they called her an alicorn.
Will we be getting more into the Flow of Magic in the future?
How much push do you think you have in the show? Could you push a little, harmless script prompt in the general direction of the Great Lakes?
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Post by weirdraptor on Feb 16, 2013 17:04:13 GMT -8
You win a hundred internets for that last comment, Al.
Anyway. Just watched the episode. I didn't think Twilight switching species was a good idea, but the writers pulled it off nicely. I'm looking forward to the next season.
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Post by Al1701 on Feb 16, 2013 18:00:50 GMT -8
Hey, what are you going to do?
Something that's interesting is Celestia said they're all Twilight's students.
My friend described the alicorns this way. Celestia and Luna are gods or at least demigods. Cadence is a sorceress. Twilight Sparkle was a mage, but now she's graduated to sorceress.
This could mean a new dynamic to episodes as Twilight takes what she's learned and applies it to helping others sort out their differences. Old lessons could be addressed further with new personalities to keep them from looking like a rehash.
EDIT: And Twilight's transformation to an alicorn is suspiciously similar to Wind Whistler's transformation in Arachnis the Captor. Unlocking the combined power of six elements/rainbows, transported to another realm where she is greeted by an alicorn predecessor, and appearing back in the real world in her transformed state in a flash of light. I know it's a coincidence, but damn.
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Post by weirdraptor on Feb 16, 2013 18:43:42 GMT -8
It must be nice to know that somebody working behind the scenes thinks like you.
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Post by Dr. Pain on Feb 16, 2013 18:53:11 GMT -8
It was the biggest steaming pile of turd that I ever seen in the entire season.
I thank whoever was responsible for making the end of S3 something I rather forget, and pretty much dread the next season and how horribly it might yet.
Next thing you know humans could be in the works to be added just for the hell of it as making Twilight royalty.
Oh, I just loved the credits too, having Miss America in horrid acting in a green screen while using footage of the main cast as a pretty lame lazy way to add salt to the gaping wound.
But anyway, the kids will not care, and that is what the show is for completely right?
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Post by sunstar on Feb 16, 2013 23:08:01 GMT -8
Trust me, Warpony, this was far better then the original idea that was sent to me with a two hour deadline to turn into something more acceptable.
My push is not much, but I can put out ideas. I want to dig into the back story of the Elements and how they were made.
The Flow of Magic may not be touched upon more, but I'm trying to change that. I've got a month and a half off until the crazy epicness of TF Prime begins and I'm back into the world of rushing to meet deadlines, wondering just who sent the bad idea to Hasbro, and the writing. I have more of a push with TF Prime.
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