Al1701
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Post by Al1701 on Feb 17, 2013 2:39:07 GMT -8
M.A. Larson was the credited writer. He's arguably their best storyteller. What exactly hit your desk?
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Dr. Pain
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Post by Dr. Pain on Feb 17, 2013 6:32:56 GMT -8
I can telyou now that Season 4 will not fair any better after this.
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Post by weirdraptor on Feb 17, 2013 12:10:34 GMT -8
I'm really curious about the "first draft", too.
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Post by djlamar2 on Feb 17, 2013 20:47:55 GMT -8
I like Rainbow Dash's reaction to TS having wings. But who wouldn't be excited if your a pegasi and someone just got wings and isn't even a pegasi? You know even though they call Twilight Sparkle an Alicorn I kind of like the original "Unipeg" idea. Or "Pegacorn" idea. I mean that's what I call the magical princesses in my stories. Unipegs and Pegacorns have always been around since the series first started. Okay maybe not since the series first started but in "Tales" unipegs are seen as some sort of aliens. Which is cool. Anyway the idea that I came up with this idea for FiM is that she is a descendant of 1 of the lost magical princess ponies who were lost when Lavan first captured the ponies. Also nothing against Alicorns as name for a pegasus born with a horn. Also I have 1 little complaint. No biggie but when we saw Cadence at the coronation I was expecting to see them do their dance. Again no biggie I mean if she did it out of respect for Twilight Sparkle since she is now a princess as well then its okay. But I really wanted to see their dance just 1 last time this season .
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Post by Dr. Pain on Feb 18, 2013 22:01:22 GMT -8
I just don't know how she got to be an Alicorn at all. The Elements just shot by themselves. Sorry, I feel as if my intelligence was just questioned.
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Zero
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Post by Zero on Feb 25, 2013 7:28:51 GMT -8
I now managed to final get to see this and all I can say is...what just happend? why do I get the feeling this will not only be short lived but also this episode wasnt really finished? It just feels like there was alot that was taken out.
By short lived I mean sometime in Season 4 Twilight gets changed back to her unicorn self after relising something or finding out something.
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Post by sunstar on Feb 25, 2013 12:49:05 GMT -8
The first draft had plot holes, no real explination of how Twilight became a Unipeg, and it was all coronation. It was rushed, horribly so.
Twilight wakes up as a Unipeg, freaks out big time, tries to cast a wings be gone spell but ends up blotching it by switching everyponies destiny. she passes out, and wakes up at the castle where she is informed that she is a princess now. Then comes the coronation and twilight is suddenly fine with being a Unipeg. Her friends all have their normal talents again. Twilight gains the ability to bring out the stars, and later, the moon. Luna keeps the moon and stars ability. It ended with the words five years later, with Twilight raising the moon as Celestia looks on, with a simple grave in the background with the word, Luna, written on it.
I was shocked that this is what the writer had churned out. It turned out that the writer squeezed this out in an hour, and I had two hours to fix it. As you can see, I kept the idea, just made it make more sense, and it was not my idea for all those songs.
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Al1701
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Post by Al1701 on Feb 25, 2013 14:10:39 GMT -8
Was it the first draft of the script or the first draft of the outline? The first script was written late in 2011 according to Meghan McCarthy at the latest writer's panel. They also always intended for it to be a musical.
I have to imagine that was the first outline. I doubt you could write 30 pages of script in an hour.
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Zero
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Post by Zero on Feb 25, 2013 17:26:43 GMT -8
its just felt so....unfinished there could of been so much more. and the whole switching of cutie marks, while interesting twist it wasnt really explained, I would of loved to see their first reactions when they woke up and found them. The little flash back, wasnt really what I call a plot twist and it never explained anything It felt to me this episode wanted to be the build up from the last 64 episodes to this point but it fell well short and just felt like some cheesy end of season clip show, the kind where they go back over the pervious episodes with clips talking about them. I was even expecting something to happen....but it was just...short
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Post by Al1701 on Feb 25, 2013 17:47:32 GMT -8
It seemed like the ponies just thought this was what they had always been doing. I think trying to explain everything would have bogged down the episode or episodes.
I have wonder if Hasbro said "make Twilight an alicorn and crown her a princess." The writers said okay as they held their meeting. They jotted down the draft, forgot about it, and then when the time came to make the episode took one look at the script and screamed "GHOST WRITER!"
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Zero
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Post by Zero on Feb 25, 2013 17:53:20 GMT -8
and they jetted in Sunstar on a G5 and took her to the studio in a limo as she is the only one who could save the day. But....they had a final draft while she was on the interstate
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Post by sunstar on Feb 25, 2013 21:37:04 GMT -8
It was done in script format. I do my best, but sometimes they do add to the story.
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Post by Zero on Feb 26, 2013 4:58:38 GMT -8
shame you dont get final say i bet you would of made this episode much better given all the hype hell the canterlot wedding was better compaired to this.
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Post by sunstar on Feb 26, 2013 22:29:18 GMT -8
I agree, the Canterlot Wedding was far better then this. If I had my way, Twilight would have earned her wings from Discord after protecting Canterlot from Sombra in a more powerful form, and it would have been a three parter too. Plus some back story about the Elements, and the introduction of Sunstar as Celestia and Lunas mother.
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Post by Zero on Feb 27, 2013 4:14:22 GMT -8
heheh introducing an OC
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